{"id":442,"date":"2017-10-03T18:27:32","date_gmt":"2017-10-03T17:27:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.podularity.com\/thehedgehogandthefox\/?p=442"},"modified":"2019-04-06T16:18:56","modified_gmt":"2019-04-06T15:18:56","slug":"helen-fry-house-secrets","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.podularity.com\/thehedgehogandthefox\/2017\/10\/03\/helen-fry-house-secrets\/","title":{"rendered":"Helen Fry on The London Cage: &#8220;It&#8217;s a house of secrets&#8230;&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/w.soundcloud.com\/player\/?url=https%3A\/\/api.soundcloud.com\/tracks\/345301100&amp;color=%23ff9900&amp;auto_play=false&amp;hide_related=false&amp;show_comments=true&amp;show_user=true&amp;show_reposts=false\" width=\"100%\" height=\"166\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-453\" src=\"https:\/\/www.podularity.com\/thehedgehogandthefox\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Fry-London-Cage-cover.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"246\" height=\"377\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.podularity.com\/thehedgehogandthefox\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Fry-London-Cage-cover.png 386w, https:\/\/www.podularity.com\/thehedgehogandthefox\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Fry-London-Cage-cover-196x300.png 196w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 246px) 100vw, 246px\" \/>The &#8216;house&#8217; in question was in Kensington Palace Gardens and, as far as its clandestine wartime function was concerned, did not officially exist. In 1940 four mansions were requisitioned to house a top secret interrogation facility for the toughest prisoners of war captured in Europe. Even today, what went on there over seventy years ago remains a sensitive subject for the intelligence services.<\/p>\n<p>My guest in this podcast, historian and broadcaster <a href=\"http:\/\/www.helen-fry.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Helen Fry, historian<\/a> has just published <a href=\"http:\/\/yalebooks.co.uk\/display.asp?k=9780300221930\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Helen Fry: The London Cage<\/a>, both during the war and subsequently, when it became the most important centre for war crimes investigations outside Germany. &#8216;What emerges&#8217;, she writes, &#8216;is an often grim picture of life inside the London cage, with fresh insights into the terrible treatment of enemy prisoners of war.&#8217;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_451\" style=\"width: 670px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-451\" class=\"size-large wp-image-451\" src=\"https:\/\/www.podularity.com\/thehedgehogandthefox\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Exterior-1a-1024x806.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"660\" height=\"519\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.podularity.com\/thehedgehogandthefox\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Exterior-1a-1024x806.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.podularity.com\/thehedgehogandthefox\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Exterior-1a-300x236.png 300w, https:\/\/www.podularity.com\/thehedgehogandthefox\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Exterior-1a-768x604.png 768w, https:\/\/www.podularity.com\/thehedgehogandthefox\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Exterior-1a-1000x787.png 1000w, https:\/\/www.podularity.com\/thehedgehogandthefox\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/Exterior-1a.png 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 660px) 100vw, 660px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-451\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Site of the London Cage<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The Cage was run by <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Alexander_Scotland\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Colonel Alexander Scotland<\/a>, a man &#8216;disliked by most people who crossed his path&#8217;. Scotland had been held in solitary confinement by the Germans during World War I and it had left its mark:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I gained a first-hand knowledge of the hopes and fears of a prisoner-of-war so that in later years, I could guess pretty well what a German prisoner might be hoping to hide when he was interrogated, how he might conceal useful information by verbal false scents and how ultimately his &#8216;front&#8217; might be broken down.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Scotland was to put that first-hand knowledge to use at the Cage. In his unpublished memoirs he indicated that &#8216;it was necessary to discipline tough, arrogant and impudent prisoners. 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